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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Around the Storage Block Blog : FCoE</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/FCoE/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: FCoE</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP1 (Build: 31106.3070)</generator><item><title>FCoE...it's almost time to get moving!</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2009/07/28/fcoe-it-s-almost-time-to-get-moving.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:48:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">964d1d0f-bea0-4201-a2aa-8aa369a35a46:96784</guid><dc:creator>Sean Fitz</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=96784</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2009/07/28/fcoe-it-s-almost-time-to-get-moving.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;by Sean Fitzpatrick, StorageWorks Storage Platforms Business Development&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Over the past few months, we&amp;#39;ve all witnessed positive milestones for FCoE...but...is it ready?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This past June the &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.t11.org/" title="T11 home page"&gt;Fibre Channel Standards&lt;/a&gt; T11.3 BB-5 (back bone) working group finalized defining the spec (or ratified)&amp;nbsp;and voted to forward it to &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.incits.org/" title="INCITS home page"&gt;INCITS&lt;/a&gt; for public review and eventually publication next year.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Is the BB-5 spec good enough to develop product? Absolutely! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also in June HP announced the availability of two ToR (top of rack) FCoE switches from &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/fcoecns/index.html" title="B-Series product page"&gt;Brocade&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://h18006.www1.hp.com/storage/saninfrastructure/switches/5000nexus/index.html" title="C-series product page"&gt;Cisco&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Other companies have also announced future availability of FCoE products.&amp;nbsp; This is positive move in the right direction for the industry and for customers looking to lower the TCO over time.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;More resources and tools are available today from Brocade, Cisco, &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.emulex.com/files/tools/FCoE-Calculator.html" title="Emulex tool"&gt;Emulex&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.qlogic.com/Products/CT_products_landingpage.aspx"&gt;QLogic &lt;/a&gt;to assist with evaluation and planning.&amp;nbsp; HP&amp;#39;s own &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.hp.com/go/san" title="SAN product page"&gt;SAN Design Guide&lt;/a&gt; provides great design ideas on how to build or modify existing SANs, including a dedicated application note on FCoE implementation guidelines.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I&amp;#39;ve stated before, this stage is very important part of the early adopter Phase I to allow customers to evaluate the technology.&amp;nbsp; The real adoption has yet to develop (phase II) and it will, once additional mature products become available.&amp;nbsp; In the mean time IT managers should investigate adopting FCoE for small pilot projects and focusing on how it&amp;#39;s going to improve their overall TCO.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From a timeline perspective 2009 is the year for proof of concept and planning.&amp;nbsp; In 2010 I&amp;#39;m anticipating a wider breath of product availability from all the major suppliers.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://bit.ly/3UGkPF" title="position paper"&gt;HP&amp;#39;s position&lt;/a&gt; is FCoE won&amp;#39;t overtake traditional Fibre Channel next week, or even next year.&amp;nbsp; But, now that FCoE is starting to move, it&amp;#39;s getting exciting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;img border="0" width="16" src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_xn2gmPb9TfM/Sb_fZkjAxpI/AAAAAAAAD3E/_9xpsQgFfTg/s128/twitter-16x16.png" height="16" alt="" /&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://twitter.com/home/?status=I&amp;#39;m%20reading%20about%20FCoE%20and%20HP%20%23StorageWorks%20http://bit.ly/17aDYM%20from%20@HPstorageGuy"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#00ccff;"&gt;Tweet this!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:medium;color:#0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/aggbug.aspx?PostID=96784" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/standard/default.aspx">standard</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/Fibre+Channel+disk+drives/default.aspx">Fibre Channel disk drives</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/SAN/default.aspx">SAN</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/fibre+channel/default.aspx">fibre channel</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/FCoE/default.aspx">FCoE</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/storage/default.aspx">storage</category></item><item><title>FCoE On your mark...get set...Go! (Part 2)</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/08/05/fcoe-on-your-mark-get-set-go-part-2.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:52:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">964d1d0f-bea0-4201-a2aa-8aa369a35a46:84148</guid><dc:creator>sean fitzpatrick</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=84148</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/08/05/fcoe-on-your-mark-get-set-go-part-2.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New"&gt;-by&amp;nbsp;Sean Fitzpatrick&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now that we are on the roller coaster of hype, what is the next cycle for FCoE?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New"&gt;I would argue that we are still in the first cycle of its adoption.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;If you’re a student of Geoffrey Moore’s Technology-Adoption Life Cycle model; the first logical event is to create and gain market interest or early market. For the sake of argument, I’m calling it ‘hype’ or the same feeling you get when you see a new shinny new penny.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;After the penny is passed around and the shine wares off, the next logical&amp;nbsp;cycle is early adopters.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;But how can you adopt a technology when the products are close to production ready, but &lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt; customer ready?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;In my opinion, production ready is something that can be consistently duplicated through a defined manufacturing process.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;At this stage, not all the kinks have been worked out, it doesn’t have to be automated, the products are generation one (Gen 1), alpha or beta versions. &lt;em&gt;Components and labor costs are high, economies of scale are not a concern and quality isn’t the most important output process. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;Most of the products available today are not what I would call ‘customer ready.’&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I &lt;em&gt;define customer ready as a product that has been tested and qualified, supported by a minimum of one operating system, has a set configuration minimum/maximum parameters, can sustain a light to medium work load, and has an errata list of non-supported features / capabilities.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;Depending on your own criteria’s it may fall into an Alpha or Beta candidates.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So just where is FCoE and how should I be planning?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;I’m going to go out on a limb and try to group the adoption phases of FCoE over the next 3-5 years.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;As a reference, look back at the history of iSCSI and its life cycle from late 90’s to today.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If we learned anything over the years, nothing moves as fast as we would like it to. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;From my perspective, 2008 through mid-2009 is about understanding the benefits, limitations, expectations and time will be spent exploring use case scenarios.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This is an excellent time to look at Gen 1 product and do some planning for your next data center refresh or new installations. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New"&gt;Late 2009 through 2010, second generation products start to take shape and economies of scale start to show up, Geoffrey More said; ‘Innovation is valuable only if it helps us achieve economic advantage.’&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If FCoE is going to become mainstream, there are two hurdles that have to become reality; 1) Lower customer TCO and 2) IT resources (Network, Server, Storage) teams have to learn new ways of working across functions.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;Beyond 2011 really depends on how the first couple of years unfold.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;These first years will set the stage for market acceptance, use case scenarios&amp;nbsp;and follow on technology innovations.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/aggbug.aspx?PostID=84148" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/standard/default.aspx">standard</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/virtualization/default.aspx">virtualization</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/Fibre+Channel+disk+drives/default.aspx">Fibre Channel disk drives</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/FCoE/default.aspx">FCoE</category></item><item><title>FCoE…On your mark…get set…Go!</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/03/04/HPPost5865.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:41:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">964d1d0f-bea0-4201-a2aa-8aa369a35a46:78499</guid><dc:creator>BlogArchive</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=78499</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/03/04/HPPost5865.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;-by Sean Fitzpatrick&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The industry is buzzing about Fibre Channel over Ethernet (FCoE) and what its impact may or may not have on iSCSI and network convergence. Initially there were some skeptics in the press like the story from &lt;a href="http://www.networkcomputing.com/showitem.jhtml?articleID=199700581"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Howard Marks FCoE: The Latest Standard We Don&amp;rsquo;t Need&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. But now it seems the tides are turning as you can read about some of the activity on the &lt;a href="http://www.fcoe.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;FCoE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; website. Putting initial total cost of ownership (TCO) discussions aside; the technology has merit and worth looking at as a catalyst to network convergence and maybe some day replacing iSCSI.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FCoE is an emerging technology that isn&amp;rsquo;t new but rather revitalized from the work being done in the &lt;a href="http://www.ieee.org/"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;IEEE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Ethernet) and &lt;a href="http://www.t11.org/"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;T11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://www.fibrechannel.org/"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Fibre Channel Industry Association&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Two improvements have been made to Ethernet include; 1) lossless Ethernet and 2) pause-base flow control. In the late 90&amp;rsquo;s these two enhancements were not available, hence why we ended up with iSCSI. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FCoE encapsulates &lt;a href="http://www.commsdesign.com/encyclopedia/defineterm.jhtml?term=Fibre%20Channel&amp;amp;x=&amp;amp;y="&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Fibre Channel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; over an Ethernet transport combining the two technologies. In a real application environment, it makes good sense to leverage one common FCoE connection between the server and network enabling new networking options. The good news is FCoE will utilize the same common driver stacks, cabling and management applications you&amp;rsquo;re already used to dealing with today. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other side of the story, iSCSI requires the use of TCP/IP and as we all know has the tendency to drop data packets, unlike FC. Plus, you will take a performance through put hit because of TCP overhead. If you&amp;rsquo;re deploying iSCSI today you know it requires its own software and management tools separate from networking apps. Because of these characteristics, iSCSI is not suitable for enterprise data centers; rather it is relegated to non-SAN remote storage, stranded storage (i.e. DAS) or small-medium business segments. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;rsquo;s anyone&amp;rsquo;s guess how long it will take for the adoption to take hole, we believe the market will eventually decide the fate of iSCSI or success of FCoE, with a little help of course. If we&amp;rsquo;ve learned anything from past experience, two things need to happen in order for FCoE to become viable alternative for iSCSI; 1) near cost parity and 2) sustained growth adoption. The premise of converged networks is to help drive out some implementation costs, examples; less adapters, optics, cables will help reduce overall power consumption. This all translates into a much greener environment. HP believes for the foreseeable future (1-3yrs) these two protocols will co-exist, and in or around 2010-11 we should start to see one of them gain more ground over the other. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By comparison:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FCoE will scale, where iSCSI is stuck. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FCoE will be lossless, where iSCSI is not. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FCoE will leverage common management, where iSCSI will always be unique. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FCoE performance is suitable for enterprise data centers, where iSCSI is not.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HP likes the new possibilities FCoE offers to enable network convergence. FCoE has potential to scale in most IT environment from small-medium-enterprise utilizing the same physical Ethernet layer and common management applications in use today. It&amp;rsquo;s too early to tell, but iSCSI and FCoE will co-exist initially. Once near cost parity is reached&amp;hellip;will there be much reason to continue iSCSI?&lt;/p&gt;
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