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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Around the Storage Block Blog : HDD</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/HDD/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: HDD</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP1 (Build: 31106.3070)</generator><item><title>New small form factor drives coming soon to HP server and storage systems</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/12/05/new-small-form-factor-drives-coming-soon-to-hp-server-and-storage-systems.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:37:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">964d1d0f-bea0-4201-a2aa-8aa369a35a46:86939</guid><dc:creator>CalvinZ</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=86939</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/12/05/new-small-form-factor-drives-coming-soon-to-hp-server-and-storage-systems.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;By Calvin Zito&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Earlier this week, HP announced new 2.5&amp;quot; small form factor (SFF) 300GB SAS drives.&amp;nbsp; You can read a bit about them in a blog written by my colleague Sonia Mathur on the ProLiant server team.&amp;nbsp; Here&amp;#39;s the link to her post: &lt;a class="" href="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/reality-check-server-insights/archive/2008/12/02/small-form-factor-drive-storage-doubles.aspx" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/reality-check-server-insights/archive/2008/12/02/small-form-factor-drive-storage-doubles.aspx&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; We&amp;#39;ll leverage the SFF drives in several of our StorageWorks products like the MSA, storage blades, and the All-in-One Storage blade.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You might also be interested in an article written on SearchStorage.com about the drives: &lt;a title="http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid5_gci1341037,00.html" href="http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid5_gci1341037,00.html"&gt;http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid5_gci1341037,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Have a good weekend!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/aggbug.aspx?PostID=86939" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/SAS/default.aspx">SAS</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/HDD/default.aspx">HDD</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/storage/default.aspx">storage</category></item><item><title>More on SPC-2</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/10/02/more-on-spc-2.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:47:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">964d1d0f-bea0-4201-a2aa-8aa369a35a46:86002</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=86002</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/10/02/more-on-spc-2.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;Last month we announced a world record SPC-2 number by the XP24000.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;At the same time we extended yet another challenge to EMC to join the rest of the world in publishing benchmarks.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;They continue to decline the offer, arguing &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://chucksblog.typepad.com/chucks_blog/2008/09/odds-and-ends.html"&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;“representativeness”&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I thought I’d clear up the “representativeness” question.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;EMC’s argument that this XP is too costly starts from the assumption that SPC-2 only represents a video streaming workload.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;To quote, “128 146GB drive pairs in your 1152 drive box? A pure video streaming workload?”&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;We actually see a widely diverse set of workloads used in the XP.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The power of having both SPC-1 and SPC-2 benchmark results is that they provide audited data that applies to almost any workload mix a customer might have.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But if one had to pick a most common workload it would probably be database transaction processing by day, then back up and data mining workloads joining the transaction processing by night.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;SPC-2 models the back up and data mining aspects, with SPC-1 representing the transaction processing.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;SPC-2 is about a lot more than video streaming.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;When people need bullet proof availability and high performance for transaction processing they turn to high end arrays like the XP24000.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It’s probably the most common use for a high end array.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Our data indicates that on average the number of disks in an initial XP purchase is right around the 265 in our SPC-2 configuration.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Some of those won’t have the levels of controllers in the SPC-2 configuration.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But an increasing number use thin provisioning.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In those cases they will often get all the controllers they’ll need up front, delaying the disk purchases as you’d expect with thin provisioning.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;So the configuration and workloads look pretty representative.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;Then consider a real use of the benchmark.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;A maximum number is key in assessing an array’s performance.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Below that you can adjust disks, controllers, and cache to get fairly linear performance changes.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But when you reach an array’s limit, all you can do is add another array. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;So once you know an array’s maximum number you know its whole range of performance.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;By maxing controllers we provide that top end number, giving the most useful result.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;For sequential workloads like back-up and data mining maxing disk count isn’t necessary, whereas it generally is for random workloads like transaction processing.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;Now let’s discuss how one might use XP’s SPC-2 results.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Let’s say you need a high end array for transaction processing.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The most common case we see requires backup and data mining operations at night in a limited time window.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Since the XP’s SPC-2 result is twice that of the next closest high end array, you can expect it to get the backup and data mining done with half the resources of the next fastest array.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But with SPC-2 you can go further.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;You can look up the specific results for backup and data mining workloads which are around 10GB/s for the XP24000.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Knowing how much data you need to backup and mine you can estimate how much of the system’s resources you’ll need to get those things done in your time window and therefore what’s still left for transaction processing during that window.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;You can scale that for the size array you need for transaction processing.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;And you can compare to other arrays that have posted results.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;All using audited data before you get sales reps involved.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p class="MsoPlainText" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"&gt;SPC benchmarks are all about empowering the storage customer.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;XP24000’s SPC-2 result is important to the most common uses for high end arrays, as well as for less common uses like video editing.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The configuration we used looks pretty typical, with choices made to make the result most useful to customers.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The cost is pretty typical for this kind of need.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;At HP we expect to continue providing this kind of useful data for customers.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;And our challenge to EMC to publish a benchmark result still stands, though they’ll probably continue inventing reasons not to.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/aggbug.aspx?PostID=86002" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/backup/default.aspx">backup</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/consolidation/default.aspx">consolidation</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/thin+provisioning/default.aspx">thin provisioning</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/Fibre+Channel+disk+drives/default.aspx">Fibre Channel disk drives</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/SAN/default.aspx">SAN</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/EMC/default.aspx">EMC</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/fibre+channel/default.aspx">fibre channel</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/HDD/default.aspx">HDD</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/storage/default.aspx">storage</category></item><item><title>EMC, We Challenge You!</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/09/08/emc-we-challenge-you.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:44:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">964d1d0f-bea0-4201-a2aa-8aa369a35a46:84637</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=84637</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/09/08/emc-we-challenge-you.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;EMC, we&amp;#39;re once again throwing down the gauntlet.&amp;nbsp; Today the XP24000 put up the highest &lt;a href="http://www.storageperformance.org/results/benchmark_results_spc2"&gt;SPC-2 benchmark result&lt;/a&gt; in the world.&amp;nbsp; The top spot for such demanding workloads as video streaming goes to the XP.&amp;nbsp; Once again, your DMX is a no show.&amp;nbsp; And once again we challenge you, this time to put up an SPC-2 number.&amp;nbsp; Every other major storage vendor is now posting SPC results.&amp;nbsp; Every other major storage vendor is now starting to give customers standard, open, audited performance results to show what they&amp;#39;ve got.&amp;nbsp; You remain the only vendor keeping your product performance behind a smoke screen of mysterious numbers and internal testing.&amp;nbsp; We challenge you join us in the world of openness and let customers quit guessing at how low the DMX&amp;#39;s performance really is!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/aggbug.aspx?PostID=84637" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/consolidation/default.aspx">consolidation</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/Fibre+Channel+disk+drives/default.aspx">Fibre Channel disk drives</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/SAN/default.aspx">SAN</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/EMC/default.aspx">EMC</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/fibre+channel/default.aspx">fibre channel</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/HDD/default.aspx">HDD</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/storage/default.aspx">storage</category></item><item><title>Enterprise Solid State Technology Today: Hype or Reality (Part 2)</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/08/27/enterprise-solid-state-technology-today-hype-or-reality-part-2.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:58:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">964d1d0f-bea0-4201-a2aa-8aa369a35a46:84481</guid><dc:creator>jasontreu</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=84481</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/08/27/enterprise-solid-state-technology-today-hype-or-reality-part-2.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;By Jieming Zhu&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will continue on with part 2 now. Hope you enjoy and please share your thoughts!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Claim #3: Because SSD does not use any mechanical moving parts, it&amp;#39;s inherently more reliable than HDDs.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;This is probably the biggest misnomer surrounding around SSD&amp;#39;s enterprise adoption.&lt;/u&gt; Quite to the contrary, because of the lack of enterprise usage, the reliability of SSD is unknown and confusing to most users, even vendors. While we have decades of experiences of how to measure, protect and improve the reliability in the HDD world, the work on the SSD side has barely started. Often times, we hear conflicting definitions about MTBF when it comes to SSD. Do you mean useable capacity or raw capacity of an SSD drive? Do you cite the underlying flash chip number or you have done drive level testing/validation? Do customers know that MTBF actually has nothing to the write endurance? Speaking of write endurance, there are so many different parameters that flash vendors tend to tweak to make their numbers better. Every time when we hear a write endurance number, do we know the actual formula used? What&amp;#39;s the page size? What&amp;#39;s the I/O block size? How are they mapped? In addition to wear-leveling, what about the read disturbance?&amp;nbsp; How do we handle the bit error? How do we deal with the data retention problem? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where it matters most, the reliability of enterprise SSD poses many questions, with so few answers...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#39;t take me wrong. I am actually a firm believer that SSD, or rather, the general solid state storage technology, brings tremendous performance/cost benefit as well as the energy and space efficiency to data centers. Further more, I also believe that it is a potentially a disruptive technology that will bring some fundamental changes in how storage subsystems are designed, how servers are designed and how OS&amp;#39;s and applications should change for the NVRAM access.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;As an industry, we have the responsibility to proactively push the technology (we have endless challenges in that front alone!) and responsibly market it to help our customers adopt. Over hyping can only cause the backlash that ultimately hurts us all. It would be particularly a shame for such a promising new technology as SSD.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/aggbug.aspx?PostID=84481" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/solid+state+storage+technology/default.aspx">solid state storage technology</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/HDD/default.aspx">HDD</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/tags/storage/default.aspx">storage</category></item></channel></rss>