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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Following the White Rabbit Blog : audience, application security, conferences</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/audience/application+security/conferences/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: audience, application security, conferences</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP1 (Build: 31106.3070)</generator><item><title>Wrong Message, Wrong Audience</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/2008/06/17/wrong-message-wrong-audience.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:26:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">94bda21f-7d63-4095-85de-7c2a68fb172c:83273</guid><dc:creator>RafalLos</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=83273</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/2008/06/17/wrong-message-wrong-audience.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#39;re delivering the wrong message, to the wrong audience.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; Don&amp;#39;t believe me?&amp;nbsp; Let&amp;#39;s look at the attendance of workshops and conferences - now look at the message that&amp;#39;s being delivered.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;m speaking of course specifically on web application security here.&amp;nbsp; A recent article on &lt;a href="http://jeremiahgrossman.blogspot.com/2008/06/developers-dont-go-to-security.html" title="Jeremiah Grossman&amp;#39;s Blog" target="_blank"&gt;Jeremiah Grossman&amp;#39;s blog&lt;/a&gt; made me think, what do we (as security professionals, and industry &amp;quot;experts&amp;quot;, do?)&amp;nbsp; I feel like it&amp;#39;s our responsibility to educate and bring the correct message to the people who will really benefit.&amp;nbsp; Interestingly enough, I feel like we&amp;#39;re failing to do this to any beneficial degree.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s one thing to want to deliver software security as a message but an entirely different thing to deliver it to the right people who will actually benefit from the message.&amp;nbsp; I honestly feel like I can&amp;#39;t stress this enough. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; I think it&amp;#39;s wonderful that security is being preached at conferences all over the place, from quality to engineering of software to process management - but the real shortcoming is in who is hearing specifically which message.&amp;nbsp; As a speaker I can tell you that if I deliver the same message to every audience it will be lost more often than it is understood.&amp;nbsp; Tailoring the message is so important.&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;The message&amp;quot; can be what ever you&amp;#39;re delivering on - for me it&amp;#39;s mostly how to build better web-based applications resilient to subversion (otherwise known as &amp;quot;hacking&amp;quot;) but again - this can be whatever you specifically are trying to convey.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; In order to understand how better to deliver a talk with some punch the key is to understand the audience... I&amp;#39;ve taken my notes from the past several months of conference speaking and will deconstruct the audience for your benefit here...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Management &lt;/b&gt;- Of course managers to go conferences, workshops, and talks because every once in a while they feel the need to stay relevant.&amp;nbsp; I can say this without reserve because I was there, and I know for a fact that most managers are so busy trying to make sure their teams are delivering that they often have very little time to do much else - and by the time they look up from their desks technology has passed them by and they are relics.&amp;nbsp; The answer to this is to hit a conference every once in a while and hear what the topics of the day are - a wise choice indeed.&amp;nbsp; The manager as a target audience is very complex but can be simply deconstructed as follows:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Goals: Understand the high-level message being delivered, the current topic and how it applies to their daily life as a steward of the business &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Challenges: Unfortunately, being that few managers are really current on technical speak it&amp;#39;s very easy to lose a mangement audience in the details, while they want to hear your message don&amp;#39;t over-complicate it&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Win-Win: Present the topic in a way that can both delivers your point without losing meaning while at the same time making it relevant to the manager&amp;#39;s everyday work-life... a tricky thing, I know!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Developers &lt;/b&gt;- Developers are a rare gem at conferences where security professionals are speaking, sadly.&amp;nbsp; Developers are keen on making stuff run faster, better, and making their lives less complicated.&amp;nbsp; Notice that I didn&amp;#39;t necessarily mention security in the stuff developers are keen on - it&amp;#39;s our job as security folks to get them excited about writing secure code and getting them to come to conferences and workshops is a great start but the issue then becomes the way in which we deliver the message.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;ll deconstruct developers here:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Goals: Learn the hot new &amp;quot;hacks&amp;quot; and cool code ninja skills which make them more marketable and give them greater ability to innovate and build something truly incredible with their code skills.&amp;nbsp; Developers want to be able to write cool code, faster, and with less effort, period.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Challenges: As I&amp;#39;ve already pointed out, security doesn&amp;#39;t often factor into the mind of a developer.&amp;nbsp; We&amp;#39;ve been trying for years to change that and to some degree it&amp;#39;s working but the percentage of security-conscious developers is still very, very low.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Win-Win: Developers aren&amp;#39;t necessarily purposefully ignorant of security, just call it...agnostic.&amp;nbsp; If we can find a way to make writing secure code less painful, and more... developer-centric they&amp;#39;ll adopt our principles and everyone wins.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Security Professionals&lt;/b&gt; - Preaching to the choir, althoughit&amp;#39;s often the choir which hasn&amp;#39;t heard the message.&amp;nbsp; I can&amp;#39;t tell you how many times I&amp;#39;ve been in front of a security-oriented group presenting and they&amp;#39;re looking at me like I&amp;#39;m a talking Polar Bear... seriously.&amp;nbsp; Security professionals have a hard time keeping up with the technologies they support - it goes with the job - and so hearing something that&amp;#39;s a niche piece is often intriguing but we have to find a way to make the message stick!&amp;nbsp; Let&amp;#39;s deconstruct a security audience...&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Goals: Hear the message, learn the &amp;quot;cool hack&amp;quot; they can take back to their team/manager to feel like they&amp;#39;re abreast of security.&amp;nbsp; In security it&amp;#39;s all about staying relevant and up-to-date and niche presentations attract security people like flies to honey.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Challenges: Quite simply put - the challenge with preaching to your own audience is that they see things in black and white.&amp;nbsp; Security peers tend to see web application security in a binary fashion; secure or not.&amp;nbsp; This creates a problem some of the time as if we deliver a strong message, say on a new AJAX vulnerabiltiy, the security staff can miss the forest (in this case the &amp;#39;big picture&amp;#39; of security) for the trees (the specific new &amp;quot;hack&amp;quot;) and actually do some reputational damage to themselves within the realm of corporate IT&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Win-Win: IF we can provide the right amount of guidance with relevant knowledge we can spur security professionals to make better policies and serve their business better.&amp;nbsp; The goal for us as speakers is to blend technology with intelligence to help mold the perfect security professional - one that is business savvy and security smart&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;b&gt;Engineers&lt;/b&gt;&amp;quot; - This is the catch-all category, as far as I&amp;#39;m concerned.&amp;nbsp; These are the other people who don&amp;#39;t necessarily fit into the stack above.&amp;nbsp; You&amp;#39;ve got a mixed bag with this, and it&amp;#39;s a challange to make it work, but I&amp;#39;ll deconstruct this audience type thus:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Goals: Learn something, take it back and apply it to work - maybe, if it&amp;#39;s relevant and applicable.&amp;nbsp; (The secret is since we&amp;#39;re talking security it&amp;#39;s &lt;i&gt;always applicable&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Challenges: Making security a relevant topic.&amp;nbsp; How do you make web application security relevant to a generic group of IT people?&amp;nbsp; Blend the right amount of technology (so as not to go over anyone&amp;#39;s head) with the aspects of IT that make it important to just about everyone - make security &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; with examples from all different sources&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Win-Win: The best-case scenario here is to make an impression on someone so that the next time someone says security - they flash back to your talk and recall the message you gave, and as a bonus attempt to apply that (or at least know where to get more information, and point someone there).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; There you have it.&amp;nbsp; I hope this has been helpful - so that the next time you&amp;#39;re standing there in front of your audience you&amp;#39;ve got the right mindset and the right goals, challenges, and winning strategy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good luck!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/aggbug.aspx?PostID=83273" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/education/default.aspx">education</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/audience/default.aspx">audience</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/speaking/default.aspx">speaking</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/application+security/default.aspx">application security</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/conferences/default.aspx">conferences</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/educating+developers/default.aspx">educating developers</category></item></channel></rss>