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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Following the White Rabbit Blog : holistic security</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/holistic+security/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: holistic security</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP1 (Build: 31106.3070)</generator><item><title>Misunderstanding the Purpose of Automated Tools</title><link>http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/2008/06/11/misunderstanding-the-purpose-of-automated-tools.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:29:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">94bda21f-7d63-4095-85de-7c2a68fb172c:83208</guid><dc:creator>RafalLos</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=83208</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/2008/06/11/misunderstanding-the-purpose-of-automated-tools.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; Let&amp;#39;s get this out in the open - &lt;u&gt;there is a misunderstood purpose of automated tools in web application security&lt;/u&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Based on my personal experiences&amp;nbsp;in front of&amp;nbsp;both management and engineering teams in the last few months, I feel this needs to be addressed, and addressed now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; I know that as a vendor of tools, we would like everyone to use our wares to find and mitigate their web application security vulnerabilities - but no one here is dilusional.&amp;nbsp; No one here in the HP ASC will ever tell you that buying/implementing our tools&amp;nbsp;will give you&amp;nbsp;total security for your web applications.&amp;nbsp; No one here will ever advocate our tools as the sole solution to an enterprise web application security strategy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; So why do other vendors do it?&amp;nbsp; More to the point - why is it that I am often asked the question... &amp;quot;&lt;em&gt;So can you tell me if we implement (the HP ASC Security Suite, or some subset thereof) we will have secure web applications?&lt;/em&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; Still scarrier - why do people get upset at me when I answer them with a stout &amp;quot;&lt;em&gt;No... our tools are but one part of a holistic strategy&lt;/em&gt;&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp; Before you think that this can&amp;#39;t possibly be anyone you know, or any manager you work for... think again.&amp;nbsp; The list of places and teams that have posed this question starts in government, leads to the education sector and trails into large enterprises just the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; I know there is some level of education that has to happen, and to some degree vendors are to blame for trying to sell &amp;quot;Magic Bullet&amp;quot; solutions at times to make the sale but the reality is no one piece of software will fix your web security woes holistically.&amp;nbsp; Let me elaborate, and explain my case.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; First, tools are just one piece of the security pyramid (People -&amp;nbsp;Process -&amp;nbsp;Tools).&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;ve had that slide in my presentations as far back as I can remember presenting, and it&amp;#39;s served me well but I do think it&amp;#39;s time to preach that a little more emphatically.&amp;nbsp; People and Process are the other two key factors to a successful web-app-sec strategy - without them the tools are of very little use.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s like having a 500Hp sports car with a nice manual gearbox and not being able to drive a manual and having no gas in the tank.&amp;nbsp; Building a successful&amp;nbsp;practice takes all 3 pieces of the pyramid to be well-established in order to function.&amp;nbsp; While the *people* are the foundation of the whole pyramid, the processes and tools keep the pyramid from collapsing on itself.&amp;nbsp; Without the other 2, no one piece can stand alone... &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;m writing a piece on the P-P-T (People/Process/Tools), but in the mean time ... this should give you something to think about.&amp;nbsp; Let&amp;#39;s just be clear one more time... no &amp;quot;tools&amp;quot; can solve the web application security problem holistically... but I will continue to argue that HP&amp;#39;s ASC Suite provides the most comprehensive, most complete lifecycle solution out there, bar-none.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/aggbug.aspx?PostID=83208" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/process/default.aspx">process</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/holistic+security/default.aspx">holistic security</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/web+application+security/default.aspx">web application security</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/automated+tools/default.aspx">automated tools</category><category domain="http://www.communities.hp.com/securitysoftware/blogs/rafal/archive/tags/automated+testing/default.aspx">automated testing</category></item></channel></rss>